Polemic

 I am a Tankie (Marxist-Leninist) and Social Democrat (pre policy regime and especially the mid to late 1910s European variety of SocDem). I am also a Contrarian

I support fellow ‘Tankies’ in all political parties in the US etc and the Libertarian faction of the Democrat Party

I support the Labour Party UK (New Labour/Third Way/Third Way Social Democracy) 

non elections

Joe Biden and his FBI have and CIA have been violating civil liberties of political opponents and innocent parents and that needs to stop.

The left is wrong to go after Elon Musk like they have. 

He is might be a bit naïve, but he rightfully sees something has to be done to make Twitter at least a little more open and less restrictive. Otherwise, Twitter should be open and say any views that PO the majority liberal userbase is bannable, no matter if those things are correct, evil or not. Harassment , outing and intimidation should always be banned on Twitter as should what I would deem hate speech.

Obviously less censorship of Twitter is needed, a lot of Twitter bans were wrong (like Tucker Carlson’s ban and Paul Sperry’s ban). 

I am also talking about censorship of official data from a progressive company that was censored because progressives and neoliberals didn't like the truth. I also believe in second chances, we all make mistakes and get heated. Twitter is easy to misuse. I give far left people a pass for their Twitter sins, some people on the reasonable right who aren't a threat to anyone should be given a little leeway too. It's only fair

If there is not free speech in political debate, the downtrodden may be worse off. Who can expose the oppressors? I support #freespeech and fully disagree with anti free speech fascist Lara Kiswani https://t.co/eeD7bdV7EI

I believe Elon Musk's invasion of privacy of Twitter users is disgusting and horrible. The last thing we need is more political harassments of political social media people.

The problem with the conservatives (and ecspecially the far right) is everything is them vs us, they don't see nuance they see the other side as enemies. Neoliberals’ problems are they feel that they should only support 'team views' (ie liberal views) and if they aren't liberal on every issue they aren't pure. Both lines of thinking are wrong

A case can be made that having too much freedom is not a good thing .There must be a limit to freedom somewhere.

I believe Neoliberal Hypocrisy is real and a problem. It's not as bad as some make it out to be and there are two sides to it but by and large it is an issue.

It is respectable for debaters to use politeness, reason, and conviction (and maybe humor and charm) to debate

The Radical right and Neoliberals today are an angry opposition that are no longer capable of participating constructively in political debate with conservatives (according to John Podhoretz) 

Qanon is a myth and ficticious nonsense

bias

How can Neoliberals, see the opposite of what Republicans Conservatives see? One reason is, Conservatives minds are wired to be fearful and anxious of new things while Neoliberals minds are wired to be bold and fearless in adopting new viewpoints or embracing new things. 

Groupthink is one of the worst parts of the human psyche and we should guard against it , whether it is in politics, business, holidays etc.  From David French "With a striking empirical regularity, deliberation tends to move groups, and the individuals who compose them, toward a more extreme point in the direction indicated by their own predeliberation judgments. In plain English, this means that when like-minded people gather, their views get more extreme. Our arguments reinforce one another to such an extent that the entire group will sometimes become more extreme than the most extreme person at the start of the deliberation"

Conservatives go on and on about 'liberal bias' in the media, tech etc.  Maybe if Conservatives had our spirit, drive and technical skills there would be no perceived 'liberal bias' since they would create a Conservative bias

There is at least somewhat liberal media biased in the media and that is a fact. Most reporters and editors are liberal. I've seen left wing sources downplay it so I think at minimum they are right (but I think there is more bias than they let on)

Neoliberal bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AReliable_sources%2FPerennial_sources&diff=prev&oldid=1058700530

https://www.commentary.org/articles/bari-weiss/resist-woke-revolution/?s=04

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/565489-chuck-todd-liberal-bias-doesnt-exist-in-media-it-absolutely-does

Robert Reich is correct about the threat of Corporatism. Corporations are starting to run our society and many of them are a threat to our democracy. It's bad enough they feed off of monopolies and buying other corporations but now they are crossing the line. Reich's book provides great insight into this. We need to fight against Corporatism before it engulfs our country. Corporations have their own agenda that transcends Right-Left split. We must stop that, bipartisanly. 

I empathize with the concerns of the OP in this Reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/jvu8to/i_used_to_be_a_liberal_4_years_ago_but_im/ and with the view that left are hypocritical at times with free speech.  I also don't like the far left's heretic hunting.  

Wikipedia does have a neoliberal bias/neocon (according to Wikipediocracy). Some examples of Wikipedia's somewhat liberal bias can be found on their articles on Socialism, Communism, Open borders, Anti Russia, Anti Tankie, drugs and similar things.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is gone a bit too far left for me in the last few years. 

I am a fan of Morris Dees and as late as 2017 the SPLC was still good, but it's gotten so bad recently, in part due to Dees getting fired, I can no longer take it serously. 

The SPLC still is a resource in finding real hate groups, but they have some groups listed as hate groups that shouldn't be hate groups listed (Pro life groups, Traditionalist Catholic groups etc), that it deludes the severity of the real hate groups listed. 

Those groups like Family Research Council and Ruth Insitutite are problematic, but labeling them hate groups does nothing but fuel their drive to keep doing what they do. We don't need to label those types of groups as hate groups, we've dealt with them just fine until SPLC's labeling of them.

Many MSM echo my concerns. They basically smear every Republican group as a hate group, even applying Guilt by Assocation logical fallacies. Us Tankies will be their next targets if we don’t stop them

party position/roles

Personally and legality wise, I don’t really care about human rights since human rights are a bourgeois concept that at times are used to defend the right. Systematically, I am morally (moral as in moral victory) apolitically progressive on human rights , plus what I write in the next paragraph

I believe that the government/state should stay out of being enforcing moral changes in most to nearly all situations.  

Moral evolution can happen many times apart of the government/state and relations between people can emerge with freedom from the government/state. Most relationships in life should not be characterized as conflict as the left and right might have it. It's good to have mutual and humane respect for others as individuals.   It's also good to do positive and unselfish things without having to grapple with the political ramifications of doing those positive things.  Of course we don't want to be so humane and clingy that is becomes creepy. 

Mark Twain said it best "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"

'If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You. Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative. When Old, You Have No Brain

I am an on again off again supporter of the House Liberty Caucus 

The Republicans in the 1980s were a good political party. Back then Republicans were seen as go getter yuppies and business people. On Family Ties for example, Alex, who was a typical 1980s Republican was a small-government, pro-capitalist libertarian at heart. Alex was hip and cool. The 1980s Republicans were a great party unlike the Republicans of today. This article puts it better than I can http://web.archive.org/web/20191011195307/https://www.cracked.com/article_26594_the-classic-sitcom-that-looks-completely-insane-in-2019.html    

The Republicans in the early to mid 1990s were still a decent party. Uncle Phil from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air was a great Republican. He rightfully belived in Affirmative action and fair housing for his community and he was moderately conservative on other issues while rightfully having faith in institutions like the courts.

I am a fan of the pre mid 1960s party switch Republican Party. From their founding through the mid 1960s, the Republicans were a Radically Liberal (ie non racist, non antisemetic, pro woman, inclusive, non interventionalist, and compassionate) political party, similar to the modern Democratic party, and Democratic party affiliated Independant today, hence why I am a fan of the pre mid 1960s party switch Republican Party.

The majority of Republicans are not domestic terrorists or terrorists (militant would be a better word for some of them but I still wouldn't label most Republicans with even that label). The majority to near vast majority of Republicans are NOT violent or extreme (how can they be violent when they whine over milkshakes being thrown at them or get the snot beat out of them, albeit wrongly by ANTIFA?). Even if someone disagrees with me about this they would have to admit that the NO Republicans in the pre 1990s world were domestic terrorists or terrorists. No Republicans in the pre 1990s world has EVER been labeled as domestic terrorists or terrorists. 

I liked that Donald Trump was anti imperialist and that he challenged the neolib/neocon agenda. I like how funny and honest he was. I like Donald Trump because he united/unites the working class from MAGA to Communism, he destroys the corporate class and ogliarchy. Trump is a unique treasure. But I am not (nor was I ever) a Donald Trump supporter. Orange man=BAD

I echo what Barack Obama said about conservative voters being misled by voting for Donald Trump.

Our laws should all be grounded in the Constitution 

The January 6 2021 protestors (and by extension the fringe of the Republican party) are now treated as badly as LGBTQ+ used be treated and as bad as pedophiles are treated. I am not saying that it is wrong they are treated like that but I am asking that is the path our country wants to take?

I sympathize with the January 6 protestors and between that and me being a contrarian tankie who loves to be countercultural against the liberal mainstream (opposite if the 1960s hippies), I will write what I write below about Jan 6 from those perspectives instead of my bourgeois anti Jan 6 protestor perspective: (bolded)

Should we try to help the January 6 2021 protestors (and by extension the fringe of the Republican party) like we help pedophiles not be so hated and stigmatized while converting the January 6 protestors to be non bigoted Left Wingers or Democrat Libertarians or should we just let the January 6 2021 protestors (and by extension the fringe of the Republican party) suffer because they aren't on Team Democrat or because their political views don't align with ours? Breaking down barriers means breaking down barriers (no pun intended).

It wasn't long ago that our country demonized Muslims after 9/11, now they are doing it with the other side's fringe. It was great we did and continue to help Muslims not be stereotyped , discriminated against or hated, but we don't get to pick which oppressed people we get to help. It doesn't work like that. Liberals are supposed to be compassionate not cold hearted. 

Many of those January 6 2021 protestors are parents, grandparents, husbands, wives, Christians, Atheists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents etc. Some protestors including a  Purple Heart Vietnam War veteran (warmonger), a man with a lego set of the Capitol, a BIPOC+ actor from Hollywood (Hollyweird), Indiana grandmother and lifelong Democrat etc. 

The January 6 protesters were only doing what they did on January 6 2021 because those protesters like so many Trump supporters are what some people would call brainwashed or cultists (I wouldn't use strong words like those 2 words to describe them but whatever).  

So on January 6 2021, the January 6 protesters were what some people would call brainwashed to demand that the election results be overturned and to do things inside (and to a lesser extent outside) of the Capitol which drew condemnation from the MSM, Liberals, many moderate Republicans and some others. If anyone is to blame for that whole sad situation its Donald Trump since he has such influence over them and according to some people, brainwash them or at best, didn't deter them (brainwash by omission). 

The Stop the Steal rally itself wasn't wrong (people can get whipped up to protest just about anything). Those protestors had every right to protest (outside of the Capitol) what they thought was a stolen election. 

As for going into the Capitol, at least one defendant was cleared by a judge who said that his testimony saying he was waved into the Capitol by Capitol police was believable but whatever

Regardless if they were let in by Capitol police, who knows what they were trying to do once they got into the Capitol as their thoughts must have been racing and they may have had a trouble figuring out what to do next (I cannot deny that it might have crossed the minds of at least a few of protestors who got into the Capitol to prevent the transfer or power to Joe Biden and AOC felt threatened as did some others so keep that in mind too). 

If they were let in by Capitol police, those Capitol police may have been far right and thought that letting the protestors in would stop Joe Biden from becoming President (regardless if that was the intention of the protestors who entered the Capitol). We need to secure our elections in the future and have accountable leaders and politicians so these things don't happen again.

I do not support the January 6 protestors but I do support some very specific January 6 left wing counterprotestors 

I believe that comparing domestic terrorists within the Republican party to ISIS and Al Qaeda is counterproductive, wrong, ignorant, divisive and in bad taste. They may be domestic terrorists or brawlers but they are not anywhere near as bad or violent as ISIS, Al Qaeda and similar groups. Instead, if the domestic terrorists of the Republican party have to be compared to some terrible group of people, then compare them to the Weather Underground, MS 13 and the hooligans who attend soccer (football) matches in Europe instead of comparing them to ISIS and Al Qaeda and similar groups.

I really want to help those far right/alt right people become deradicalized, Left Wingers whose views 100 percent align with my views

Maybe I will reprogram them to be exactly as Left Wing as I am

We treat the far right and alt right like they are not human, like they are scum, like their lives don't have value. That is not the type of thinking I believe we should have. Everyone can change, no one is perfect. They may have had legit gripes that got warped into the madness they have now. Why not help unlock that moderate/liberal/progressive in them?  They would be an asset to our side. Big tent means Big Tent

With reservation I say that most Republicans are either decent or not as bad as people are lead to believe. Republicans are reactionary and that is very wrong and they should be confronted and called out for being reactionary. Republicans get sadly stereotyped by Liberals yet if liberals would move to a Red area and spend time with these people they wouldn't hate them and maybe even understand some of their views.  https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/the-other-half-of-america-that-the-liberal-media-doesnt-cover.  The liberal media which is smears Republicans and groups them in (not that the Republicans don't give them ammunition to do so). If liberals are about fighting for the down and outer they need to stop this liberal media smear machine before it turns on them (which it will one day). 

I don't think us liberals should hate right wing or far right people since that feeds the us vs them thinking. At least some of those mid right and far right people don't know any better because they are ignorant and misguided.  The far right mentions the same issues over and over but they don't have good solutions or ideas that can fix those issues

A lot of far righters extreme actions are due to their financial situations which turns a lot of good into far right ones.

We should have compassion for Trump supporters since a lot of them don't know better.

Bad Apples

If we value diversity, we should value diversity of viewpoints (assuming those viewpoints are not bigoted). If we only hear viewpoints of the people who think like us or who we agree with, that is not a healthy thing and is a close minded, ignorant thing to do.

NeoLiberals and Neocons are illogical totalitarians for saying any view to the left or right they don’t agree with is extremist or evil. People can have different viewpoints as is the case of any healthy society, stifling free speech and non liberal viewpoints is Anti Democratic, cringe and goes against what our country was founded on. 

If these NeoLiberals and Neocons were around in the 1960s who knows who they would go after 

I do not support ANTIFA (they are counterproductive)

I am conditionally and mostly against Liberals outing Conservatives 

I am against the Democrats censuring Krysten Sinema. Shame on those bullies for censuring her

Neoliberals are very wrong for calling people who don't agree with them bigots. There is NOTHING wrong or bigoted about disagreeing with Neoliberals on at least SOME/SPECIFIC issues Anyone who says otherwise is a troll.

Twitter far left neoliberals (like the people who ignorantly and wrongly labeled Chris Pratt a racist for not supporting Joe Biden) give the Democrat party in general a bad name and they need to stop being far left neoliberals. They are an embarrasment to our party and they are in some ways almost as bad as the mid right and far right.  This overlaps with my anti cancel culture/SJW view.

I am against the media using the word misinformation as much as they do. If they use it for everything they'll make me think they are using NEWSSPEAK. From WP "Misinformation can be true, but is selective in what is communicated such that the other person will come to desired conclusions" . 

I've always been bothered with how neoliberals and neocons gang up on Right Wingers and Leftists, people they don't agree with or companies and other entities they don't agree with on social media whenever those people say something offensive or does something that triggers them. I feel that neoliberals and neocons bully some of those people and this is not something we should be doing as it is beneath us and lowers us to their level. 

I've seen this with Elon Musk. Look at who is ganging up on him: NY Times, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, Joy Reid, Robert Reich, TechCrunch, Howard Dean, Shaun King, George Takei ,MEATHEAD , pretty much anyone who served in any capacity under Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, etc  How would these neoliberals and neocons enjoy having the tide turned on them? They wouldn't like it so much, just ask Debra Messing how it feels.

Doesn't it seem 'weird' that its always the same neoliberals and neocons who protest against things they don't like?  

Same corporations, same celebrities, same news orgs, same political people, same organizations etc. It’s like the Cathedral

We need to end this ganging up, public shaming and bullying of people we don't agree with , because if we don't it could swing the other way fast if the right gets power and then we're really f***d.  Better to show we are bigger people now, or else we might be on the other end of this stick.     

Why allow Donald Trump to force us the Neoliberals and Neocons be the type of people that everyone hates?  They go low, they need to go high, Michelle Obama has the right idea.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and creates echo chambers and hive minds and that needs to stop.

It's funny, neoliberals and neocons always claim to stick up for the 'marginalized' and 'oppressed' while claiming to be against bullying ,yet they engage in the same tactics ,especially on social media over people and views they find offensive or don't agree with. Trust me, it's toxic and is bad. 

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